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Navy 78( GreekZ )• • •(guild council)• • •

Den milhsa genika gia sxeseis member-guild, apla eipa oti dn xreiazetai na kanoun oloi kati (merikoi mporei k apla na varioudai sto katw-katw), arkei na mhn exoun k apaithseis ap to guild...

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Kai, vre paidia eleos, mhn kanete double post.. Tzampa ta lew??? Diavaste k kanena post m oloklhro...

[ Last edited by Clerry at 28-5-2008 09:25 ]

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AGAPITO GUILD
RE MLKES skefteste ti lete edo i oxi?

1on) i cler exei apolito dikio kai vsk otan ftiaxtike to guild kaneis den eprepe na kanei kati. Kaneis mas den mpike gia na doulepsei apla thelame na ginoume omada na vgaloume kana frago kai na milame metaxi mas
Sxetika me to oti kapios den kanei douleia, oso iparxei xoros kai den einai koresmeno to guild den peirazei ALLA efoson den kanei douleia na min perimenei kai amoivi. Dld den tha trexei o alos apo edo kai apo ekei na vgalei kapia lefta kai o alos na ta xinei oli mera kai na ton plironoume

2on pali i cler exei dikio me ta double post ginontai kourastika kai pianoun poli xoro kai to forum nomizo einai limited pages.( an kano lethos diorthoste me)
(GRATS CLER MEXRI TORA)

Episis gia ton tank pou theloun ta paidia einai ipervolika aplo. Iparxoun 2 tropoi.
o enas einai na ftiaxei kapios enan champ kai na pigenei pali kai o deuteros einai na vroume ton mitso(gargant-gorthor) kai opos eixe protinei kai pio palia na mas dosei to acc tou na mpainei kapios me ton gargant pou einai gamatos tanker. Den nomizo na exei provlima efoson den pezei pleon kai ego thelo na erxomai DS na tankaro gt goustaro poli ta mazes kai tha enisxithei kai to guild mas oikonomika

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Loipon.. Katsame k syzhtagame shmera me ton kosta (o opoios parepiptontws shmera 28/5 exei gene8lia.. XRONIA POLLA KOSTA!!! ) gia to 8ema ths afragias.
Meta apo pollh skepsh katalhksame se mia "pi8anh" lysh (kritikh kai protaseis gia veltiwsh   kalodexoumenes k aparaithtes nomizw).

Eisagwgh telos.. Twra to pws 8a douleuei to systhma:
Epese h idea (pera twn stall twn omadwn -den exei dieukrinistei akoma pws 8a doulepsei auto-) na ginoun 3 stalls, triwn diaforetikwn kathgoriwn:
1. Manu stall
2. E, dn 8ymamai poia einai auth h kathgoria, alla nomizw chests? Dior8wse me kosta
3. "Gambling"
4. Rations...

1a. To manu stall 8a perilamvanei (nai, swsta madepsate) adikeimena manu. To stalling 8a to analavw egw, alla yparxei megalh pi8anothta na xreiastoume k ypokatasthmata. Pws 8a douleuei? 8a yparxei mia omada apo tous "mikrolvlhtes" pou 8a farmarei.  O ka8enas diaforetiko item. Logika 8a 8eloume apo 2-3 stack blurries, k otidhpote xreiazetai gia na ta manufactaroume (to ellhniko pws to milaw e??). Perissoteres leptomereies an odws to efarmosoume...

2a. Nomizw to chesting einai autonohto pws leitourgei.. An k an yparxei stall gia chests, logika 8a einai 2.. (ena gia ka8e omada)

3a. To "gambling" perilamvanei otidhpote mporei na se kanei na xaseis trella lefta.. Koinws: oss, sealed bps, nss k skeftomaste k gia packets ap ta fortune trees. To stalling analamvanei o kostas, opws epishs prosferh8ke na mas promh8euei me sealed bps k oss. Wstoso xreiazetai 1 atomo na farmarei sth naval, gia ta 100k pou xreiazetai gia na vrei ta sealed k ta oss (edw 8elw na symplhrwsw oti to atomo pou 8a farmarei naval, kalo 8a htan na dinei merika apo ta clovers ston reviver tou guild mas, kai merika apo ta elven sthn manu paragwgh -mallon xreiazomaste parapanw atoma edw kosta-). Twra, osoi 8eloun na fernoun sealed, euxaristws..! Epishs, se auto to stall xreiazomaste mia omada pou 8a farmarei nss, kata protimhsh sta lizzards (ekei mporei na exei k drops twn 50k -ta opoia kratate-) kai mia omada na chopparei to fortune tree (ax auto to ellhniko m me trelainei.. ) Nomizw ta eipa ola k g auth thn omada...

4a. Se auto to stall (pou to eixa ksexasei arxika, sorry) osoi kanoun mentoring mporoun na fernoun rations.. 'H kai frouta.. Peraiterw plhrofories apo kosta...

Twra.. :
Genikoi kanones (poly genikoi omws..)
~Dialegete eseis se poio stall 8elete na voh8ate
~Mporeite na voh8ate se panw apo 1 stall
~Ta esoda 8a phgainoun sta "Banks" ka8e omadas, pada analogika (analoga me to poso exete syneisferei sto stall pou voh8ate)
~An odws efarmosoume auto to "project" kalo 8a htan na mazepsoume prwta mpoliko yliko k meta na arxisoume na stallaroume

Em, auta nomizw pros to paron..

Skopos tou post :
Prwta ap ola 8elame na sas poume ti skefthkame.. Epipleon, 8eloume idees gia veltiwsh, enstaseis -an yparxoun-, dhlwseis se poia omada 8a 8elate na voh8hsete(gia na doume an 8a yparxei symmetoxh) kai genika oti allo skefteite...

Oyf, poly grapsimo...:P [perimenw apanthseis e?? K kata protimhsh oxi double post]


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Sxetika me to 8ema tou pirate guild... Otan psaxnoume gia spot k mas zhtane yperogka posa, kalo 8a htan na tous poume: To stone of oath kanei 250k, k xreiazesai 1mil gia na anoikseis guild, opote efoson dn 8elw oute guild members oute tipota, dn sou dinw panw apo 2mil... (lew egw twra.. -kai dn eimai sigourh an autes einai oi times- alla pisteuw oti an to pazarepsoume me swsta epixeirhmata, dn mporei, 8a to vrume fthna to palioguild:P)

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Evala k 4o stall, pou to eixa ksexasei prin, sorry paides...:P

[ Last edited by Clerry at 28-5-2008 11:33 ]

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Proteinw kai 4o STall

Dld na phgenune kapoia atoma Fortune Isle kai na farmarune sta mobs ekei(vlepe Megalollvlites px DeathSoulhero,NeverCrys).Pou Farmarune ekei kai pernune invocations Blueprint(i aksia tus 900K to ena).*Perimenw enstaseis Protaseis panw s auto.
Episis Thelume ena Stall me Mini amps.Ta opoia mporume Eukola na vgune apo plvl 1 kalu lvl55ari me allunu account(autofollow,autoloot)Opios px exei lga reps na tn voithisume na parei pio Polla.(Auto sinepagete sto F.Rations Stall i gia endoguildiaki Xrhsh)
Epipleon Opos to NAvy 35 Gemizei ena stall me sandbags 9 slots me apoklisi timwn kai auto eine mia kalh poly kalh idea(pwpw ZwgRafiZw Sto TeXting).
Thelw na Tonisw oTi To Guild Plhn Merikwn ekSEreSewn Paei apo to KALo Sto KaLuTero.Episis ena allo i ds omada prepei na tin voithisume me tus Voy otan kai efoson eimaste on oste na fernune Chest kai na Gemizei to Guild Bank sn to palio KaLo kairo.
Thelw na LENE OTI TO NAVY 83 apo thallasa dn PERNAS ZWNTANOS na eimaste o tromos kai o fovos TU DS.
Wraia i IDEA Su C1aire Mporo na helparo tn KWsta apo naval na fernw Clover kai Elven opote kai efoson ta Xreiazeste.(Clover gia anania,kwsta kai elven fruits gia Manu stall)
Auta ta OliGa APo emEna AKuw tis protaseis sas

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Aaaa poly xairomai p phres k esy mpros...!! XD
Ta sand bags ennoeitai oti symperilamvanontai sto manu stall (mhn anyshxeis, to manu 8ema to katexw).. Epishs ta invo bps an ta farmaroume mporoune na pane mazi me ta sealed [k an exoume perisseuma apo blurrie ta vazoume k auta ekei, siga..].. Twra gia ta mini amps, an dn vroume analogo stall, 'h 8a ta valoume mazi me sandbags, 'h 8a ftiaksume stall gia sandbags+mini amps. Auto mou fainetai ligo pleonasmos omws, gt dedomenou oti 8a yparxoun ypokatasthmata sth manu kathgoria, kapou 8a ta volepsoume k ta mini amps sou...

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POPO ZESTI PFFFFFFFFF

Mages molis girisa kai eipa den grafo kai ego tin mlkia mou????
Loipon oraies oi idees sas an kai me mperdepsate me ta stall kai ta banks kai tha ithela kapios na mou to xekatharisei. Tha to ektimousa poli auto.

Sxetika me tis protaseis gia ta stalls oraiees fenontai kai akougontai an kai opos exo xana aneferei tha ginei megalo mperdema gt
1on mporei oi ikro lvlites opos eipate pou tha mazeuoun ilika na min thelisoun na kanoun mia tetiou eidous ''agareia'' i na mas lene nai nai nai kai na mas grafoun. Axizei omos mia prospatheia kai opos paei. Sto naval base einai poli argo to mazema ton elven kai ton revival eno ego se 10 mins exo ena stack elven kai se 20mins ena stack revival ,me ta opia idi exo trofodotisei ton anania poles me stacks ap dauta, apo to gulf me tin voy mou kai den exo provlima na ferno kai 5 stacks tin vdomada (kai blurry mporo na ferno eukola logo howl alla einai vareta opote den thelo). Epipleon tha ginoun kai edo edikies gt mporei na steiloume kapion na mazepsei diskolo drop eno o epomenos na mazeuei eukolo drop OPOTE edo proteino to iliko pou mazeuei kaneis na allazei sixna oste na provleftoun oi adikies autes.( Nomizo telos me to manu gia tora )

gia to chesting tora den einai anagi na iparxoun 2 stalls apla apo ta lefta pou vgazei to ena tha xorizontai analoga me ta chests. Kai gia to DS re paides ok apo thalassa den pernaei kaneis alla an den vroun enan tank ta paidia diskola tha kanoun chesting (opote xanaleo gia ton Gargant pou einai kai gmw tous tanks) alios DS2 pos tha rixnoun ta mobs kai mexri to spawn tha vgaloun to chest?(Idios otan o DARK den exei kan 45aria unseals)

gambling tora einai eukolo kai exei std eisodimata alla ta seald BP ego leo na ta anoigoume gt vgazoun kala stuff eno ta OSS/luckey packets/nss ( an kai stack apo nss vgazeis ta diplasia apo ta lefta pou ta poulas)

oso gia to stall me rations den einai anagi na fernei opios thelei kai an exei. Mporoume lego na valoume kathe savvato pou exei 2x / 3x xp se enan char 4 disciples. Tous 4 autous disciples tha xparoun 4 cruses kai tha mazeuoun gredits. i kathe apofitisi einai peripou 2 stacks apo rations opote 2 stacks * 4 disciples =8 stacks kathe apofitisi. Tora ta rations auta mporoume kalista apo to na ta usaroume na ta stallaroume kai na vgazoume ta malliokefala mas!!!!!! DEn xero skefteite kai peite idees ego opote mporo helparo kai etc den exo provlima

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NA ME KAI EGO

loipon! eipa kai ego na po tis idees mou! auto me to diaxorismo stalls(alla me sealed alla me manu) proteino na baloume kai ena me ylika gia hex!(bgenoun eukola kai grigora).pisteuo pos me auti tin taktiki tha bgazoume arketo gold se ligo xrono arkei na organothoume! akoma mporo kai ego na symbalo se thema mazematos pragmaton sta manu(logo bot) kai mporo na exo 1 stack blurry tin imera an thelete! akoma prepei na mazeuoume ta kyria ylika se polla stacks gia na min yparxei kathisterisi(xreiazomaste akoma polla strips xyla) elvens mporoun na mazeutoun apo salvage ara se auto to thema einai o antonis kai o kostas!

oson afora ta hex ylika mporo prosopika na mazeuo polla shashimi kai arketa iron ores(kai wood mporo aplos einai ligo vareto).

akoma thelo na prostheso oti mporoume na baloume opos exo pei kai proigoumenos na bazoume o kathe char liga lefta sto bank ana vdomada(p.x 100k each). to farming den gnorizo an mporei na apoferei xrimata etsi den epifero kamia gnomi

EPIBRAVEUSI!
mpravo sta ds pedia! pisteuo pos to exoun parei sobara to thema kai tora pou symmaxisane me dc pisteuo pos tha epizoune polles pio polles fores kai analoga me tin symfonia ton layers tha bgazoume kai chests!

OSO GIA TO DW!
to xero einai noris gia na mporoume na kanoume maze se dw alla pisteuo pos an pame mazika!(mono mazika) mporoume na bgaloume kapoia stuff!

symfono me idees claire kai leader kai kosta!(akoma mporoume na farmaroume spring..dioti bgazoun bc(to opoio den xero poso syxna kanei drop) kai gia auto den to ypostirizo polu!

en synexeia mporoume na broume aki allous tropous alla pisteuo pos manu,chests,hex,kai selaed bps tha exoume tis kalyteres apolaves!
auta apo mena!! xereto!

Y.P: opos eipe kai oi claire sta proigoumena tis posts,otanm apofasisoume me to ti tha asxolithoumai olo to guild,tha itan na kano na psotaroume edo kapoia rules!

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Adwnh, gia ta 2 stall, einai auto pou legame prin me tis 2 omades. Sth mia einai oi 55+ k sthn allh oi 55-.. Opote.. Opws ekshgw k sto post-egkyklopaideia(etsi opws katadhse) ola ta melh 8a voh8ane sthn epixeirhsh twn pollwn stall, k to eisodhma 8a moirazetai analoga.
Gia paradeigma sto manu, an exoun ferei ylika 3 atoma twn mikrwn k 7 twn megalwn, apo to eisodhma ennoeitai oti to 70% 8a paei sto bank twn megalwn k to ypoloipo 30% sto bank twn mikrwn.. (mhn anyshxeis, 8a ta kanw egw ta ma8hmatika...)

Ennoeitai oti oi douleies oson afora sto manu 8a allazoun kai gia to logo pou eipes(oti kapoia einai pio dyskola) alla kai gia na yparxei poikilia k na mh variomaste kanodas synexeia to idio pragma...

Kai telos, oson afora se autous pou endexomenws mas grafoun 'h dn 8eloun na kanoun kati, katalhksame (se syzhthsh sta parapanw post) oti apla dn 8a mporoun na exoun apaithseis ap to guild. Dhladh an dn voh8ane oute se stall oute se chesting, poly apla dn 8a mporoun na zhthsoun xrhmatam kai teleiwnei ekei to 8ema. Dn katalavainw giati prepei na xaliomaste kai emeis kai autoi malwnontas gia to an 8avoh8hsoun h oxi. An dn 8eloun, emeis paso, apla dn zhtane xrhmata 'h equips k telos...

Epishs, oson afora to ds..: Shmera phgan o aderfos m, o dark, h zwh k apo ena shmeio k meta o igor(milaw gia to ds twn 8), kai parakolou8ousa ti ekanan. Ofeilw na omologhsw oti to exoun parei poly 8erma to 8ema, alla dn yparxei organwsh, k dn exoun de8ei san omada. Prepei na to vroun auto to 8ema k na voh8ane opou xreiazetai xwris na xreiazetai na milhsoun. Px gia ta heal prepei h zwh na ta vlepei k na healarei prin to zhthsoun, opws k oi crus prepei na prosexoun th zwh (me analoga stun kai tanking opou xreiazetai). G auto to logo pisteuw oti xreiazomaste kati san guide pou na exei prwta ap ola xarth tou ds gt dn to kseroun ka8olou, ka8ws kai texnikes "chesting", poia einai ta eukola, poia 8eloun tank k diafora alla tetoia.. An varieste na grapsete, prosferomai egw...

Auta pros to paron

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Na kai link gia ds guide... Melethste to paides
http://forum.top.igg.com/viewthread.php?tid=3874

[ Last edited by Clerry at 28-5-2008 15:07 ]

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Loipon hrtha kai egw gia na milhsw authn thn fora me arithmous kai dedomena.
Prwton euxaristw polu!!!

Loipon isws ksexasw kati giati den mporw na thumamai ta panta pou diavasa apo auta pou grapsate.
Thelw na euxaristisw thn clerry gia ta organomena post.
Loipon eipa na milisw me arithmous kai dedomena etsi wste na ksekatharisoume kapoia pragmata kai na diamorfosoume kalhtera to susthma mas.
PERI INVOCATION BPs
Rikste mia matia edw.(parakalw koitakste apo ton arithmo 32 kai katw)
http://piratia.arbah.ru/en/items/1003
(den tha balw analutika stats, mporeite na ta deite monoi sas)

Sxolia: To invocation bp sta lvl mas einai polu duskolo na apokththei.Tha mporousa na pw pws tha eixame perissoteres elpides mesa sto abandon lvl 1 gia drop invoc.(alla akoma den mporoume na pame ekei)To farming twn beardy pirates paizei na einai kalo mono an pame parapanw apo 1 atoma etsi wste na ginetai grhgora.(kalo farming=grhgoro killing)

PERI 4ou stall
Sorry auto to sugkekrimeno den eixa prolabei na to anaferw.Ypotheto pws den anafera to chesting giati mou fainotane kai mena autonohto.

Sxolia: Blepw pws arxise mia kalh prospatheia na mpei mpros sthn mhxanh tou chesting.Suntoma pisteuw tha fanoun apotelesmata

PERI RANDOM EMPODIWN(gia to poios den tha thelei)(leksh kleidi=agkareia)
Loipon opoios mporei na anhkei se authn thn kathgoria autwn pou tha bariountai na to kanoun auto, kat'emou bgainei xamenos.Prwton edw mias kai einai sullogikh douleia tha mporei na douleuei omadika kserontas oti tha bgalei kati sigoura.To ofelos paei se olous tous ergazomenous.Den paizei na eimaste kai toso kapitales edw mesa

Sxolia:Skefthte poia ergasia sas aresei pio polu, kai otan barethite thn mia allakste thesh me kapoion kai kante kati allo etsi wste na spaei h monotonia.Koitaxte egw sas eipa pws tha bgazw euxaristos sealed bps kai oss alla perimenw analogh prospatheia paragwghs kai apo ta alla katasthmata.

PERI NAVAL INFOS
Loipon apo autous pou tha phgainoun gia clovers kai ta 100k pou xreiazomai, gia na to dwsw se stathero arithmo, xreiazomai proswpika 70 clovers.
Epishs ta elven fruits sthn naval peftoun toso grhgora pou paliotera gemize to inventory mou kai ta patousa delete.(auto pou kanei o hell to kanei aneta epeidh o voy tou exei kanei story quest kai exei salvage, emena exoun problem ta story quest("OUSTIA").
(uparxei kati akoma peri gem salvaging pou tha to afhsw akoma pisw)

PERI DS INFOS/GUIDES/MAPS/EXTRAS

Loipon opws zhththike tha balw edw kapoia links gia arxh etsi wste na mhn psaxnoun ta paidia opou ki opou alla na kseroun oti uparxoun mesa sto forum tou guild mas.
EDW ENA ANALUTIKO GUIDE PERI DS
http://forum.top.igg.com/viewthread.php?tid=3874

tha kanw kai kati illustraded
(Authn thn diadromh diagrafame emeis.(kai an kathomastan sto DS1 phgainame sunexeia apo to chest to 1 sto chest to 2 kai meta pali sto 1(auto giati kathe chest sto DS1 exei 5 minutes respawn)


(Authn thn diadromh diagrafame emeis sto DS2.(kai otan ta teleiwname phgainame ksana sto 1 chest tou DS2)(!!!WARNING!!!)=(to proteleutaio chest sto DS2 pou einai sthn perioxh ekei katw ston xarti einai polu epikinduno epeidh exei polla terata mazi opote ama den mporeite to afhnete.Den aksizei na pethanete)
Ta CHEST STO DS2 exoun to kathena 30 lepta respawn



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Fobamai pws exw ksexasei polla pragmata alla sorry.
Thelw na kanoume kai allh analush alla na arxisoume na mazeuoume apo twra pragmata.

SEE YA ONLINE
(melethste to GUIDE)-sorry pou den ekana kati parapanw apo illustrated alla tha perasei h wra kai thelw afou masw kana sealed bp na diavasw kai tipota

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Pwpw, egrapses pali kosta...

Ok, apo diadromes pisteuw eimaste comple.. To provlhma pou eida egw omws einai sto oti dn kseroun vasika "kolpa" toso sto ds chesting oso kai sth symperifora mesa sto party.. Gia paradeigma (mporei na ftaiw k egw pou endexomenws na mhn to exw pei) alla h zwh dn hksere oti to healing-buffing ginetai pada apo ta tabs tou party k oti pada oi healers auta koitane.. Epishs, vasika kolpa typou ti kanoume sto ds2 chest1 otan dn exoume tank eprepe na ta exoume pei(kserete, pisw ap ta dentra k IS typou..). Pisteuw shmera ema8an 2-3 pragmata afou ousiastika hmoun panw ap ton aderfo m k tous elega vhma-vhma ti na kanoun (lol), alla an dn paei kapoios na tous deiksei, kai kyriotera na katsoun na /akousoun/, dn nomizw oti 8a exoun alla chest ektos ap to klassiko prwto tou ds2..

Symperasma: Entatiko training...

(xwris parekshghsh...)

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