PlaterLumitar 5-24-2012 03:06 PM
Bd souls in glove o.o
Iyashii 5-24-2012 04:15 PM
[font=Maiandra GD][size=2][b]@Maju[/b] I do think SS should get a hp boost, but that's just not the topic here xD but hey, if there's a poll to get IGG/Moli to boost SSs hp/def, I'm definitely gonna vote for yes.
And generally you're all focusing too much on clerics and forgetting voys and SMs... but even for clerics, when you look at it, they'd have 2 places for azraels and 2 places for UGs if this happened. Which is the SAME as crusaders and 2 sword champs, but not more. Maybe all classes should get 2 spots, so okay, maybe strikes in weapon wouldn't be that bad either... but SS DO also have bd eyes, which is also another thing, but you know what, I'm not even gonna go more into that, because then it gets too complicated and off-topic >.<. And I'm tired of making long posts here.[/size][/font]
randelin1 5-24-2012 04:47 PM
well there is clerics atm in moonlight what are lets say hard to kill.. even if i hit desent max on crus 7k+ takes me over 1 stun to get them down to 0 spr :/ #269 or maybe i just suck dunno.
there is op clerics in this game :D
almlima 5-24-2012 05:54 PM
I support this ?m055
this is absolutely fair, cruzes and champs have 2 swords to forge rages at, ss's got weapon and glove, why people complain about?
obviously all who voted no are just melee classes that are afraid of get a lil bit power/class balance between melee and magic, wich doesn't exist atm
other important thing to say is that melee classes level up a lot easier, and the level difference makes a relevant change at magical classes damage, so it will be fair getting more spr. imagine the bolt of a lv80-100~~ pure con SM at a lv 130 full con cruz ?m025 it's super low, and probably doesn't even low 20% hp
i don't think IGG will do it because there is the Con and Spr rocks, even with the pathetic stat bonus it's some imps people spend, all we know what IGG people want. ($) 3 ($)
but would be just lovely, so let's keep the idea up. any change is welcome, crack/chipp too. ?m159
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Wetew 5-24-2012 07:36 PM
[size=6][color=Red][font=Impact]AGAIN, I WANT TO SEE A SCREENSHOT OF THOSE LOTS OF SUPER POWERED MAGES. ?m077
WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPORTION? 250 melee classes one hitting vs 1 Mage with 7k bolt? LOL[/font][/color][/size]
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xtreme22 5-24-2012 08:55 PM
[font=Tahoma][size=2]o_o As an SS, I don't wanna see more clerics starting to bolt my HP to half..
In Moonlight, 1 cleric uses lvl 5 flashes and her bolts really hurt so bad o_o and she takes forever to die...
I'm not against cleric boost, but if you would think of it, the moment IGG allows mages to add Gem of Soul in gloves then Clerics will be completely useless against SMs who would still tank and BOLT MORE o.o then what happens next? Clerics will complain again? And yes, I know this is not about melee classes, but most magicals complain about SSes, cruses and champs having insane maxes but hell do you see how much HP an SS can get? O_o why talk of SSes insane max if we barely survive against those OP champs on duals?
And about screenshots of those overpowered mages, how do you expect us to get that? o.o Would people actually show us their equips just to disprove this thread for the need of more power on mages? They won't because they would surely want this to push through so they can have more power o.o
Wetew 5-24-2012 09:20 PM
You can just screenshot her bolting you.
xtreme22 5-24-2012 11:37 PM
[font=Tahoma][size=2]That's if I even survive to be bolted by her o.o
She's always protected by 2-3 champs and 2094803294823 crusaders and SS ;3
But believe it or not, she tanks alot and damages alot xP
I always consider her as an SM because she does tank better than SMs in our server yet bolts alot more than them.
almlima 5-26-2012 12:30 PM
ok, there is the op magical classes, but as Wetew said, the proportion...
deciding 'the future' of all the magical classes on top because of these few super strong ones is lame, what about the weaker ones from ur server, and people from other servers?
at eclipse for example, there isn't even 1 active high lv cleric atm.
and about magic classes tanking, can't see the big deal, a champ with shield takes ages to die, or a pro cruz.. at the same time he can spread slashes around, and kill many.
people just shut up and think 'normal, usual'.
that's all about balance. cruzes can -20k slash people around and clerics can't 2 bolt?
xtreme22 5-26-2012 12:54 PM
[font=Tahoma][size=2]All the clerics in high lvl guilds in my server are really decent - awesome.
And erm, any class that has a possibilty for POWER will soon be super populated o_o
Why are there many crusaders and champs? because there is a big chance of power in those classes..
Clerics, with enough malling, can also be powerful, all the more if this soul gems will be up for gloves..
You guys are talking of why can't clerics be allowed to 2 bolts people, but erm, then what about those classes they are going to 2 bolt? Is there really a chance a cleric can 2 bolt a maller champ and crus? If that happens then what about their damage on other melee classes who dun have as much HP as champs and cruses on shields? o_o
Balance CAN NEVER BE ATTAINED by trying to focus on 1 sector of the 'community'. If we want real balance, let's all together petition for the lessening the power of those fat champs and ugly crusaders xP
Hell if cruses and champs can hit -20k and clerics can 2 bolt, then damn SSes would wanna 1-2 shots too, then voyagers would wanna 2 conch people too o_o...
Cycle called LIFE~
Good luck to all of us ~367
Iyashii 5-26-2012 01:49 PM
[font=Maiandra GD][size=2]Well hey, I'm getting kinda tired of people discussing SS problems here >_> so let's please just stop talking about that and let people vote on the problem at hand HERE. If you're an unhappy SS camper, just vote no here and for balancing YOUR class, go make your own thread. Though actually there kinda already is one, the one about fixing guns... and ironically enough I saw SS complaining there about magic classes invading THEIR thread with THEIR problems.
Again, no offense to you Riss, but seriously. Pretty tired of the SS talk here lol. And while I like the idea of a thread to unite together against the OP people, this isn't it, so I just want magic class talk here.[/size][/font]
asumitsu1990 5-26-2012 05:20 PM
just make them put all gems they want!! whether armor shield or gloves boots..
rock and roll dude$297
DigitalMike 5-26-2012 06:55 PM
[quote]AGAIN, I WANT TO SEE A SCREENSHOT OF THOSE LOTS OF SUPER POWERED MAGES.
WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPORTION? 250 melee classes one hitting vs 1 Mage with 7k bolt? LOL
Perhaps a shock, but magic classes will be the main classes of the future. At some point all the new updates will have increased PR and defence of players and monsters to such a hight that melee damage will be reduced to almost nothing.
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cang559 5-26-2012 11:12 PM
i wouldnt say that at all. igg would still make mobs that can seal and stun , and cruz and champ could still gem more than use. think about voy we only have 3 socks to gem thats really stupid on igg's case they could have made us mall more and they didnt
xtreme22 5-27-2012 12:22 AM
[font=Tahoma][size=2]As much as I don't like being 'punished' for what others did, I'm leaving this thread alone, all I am trying to say is, if each of us is aiming for balance then we can't argue that other melee classes (including MY class) are fine, because ONLY champs and cruses are fine, SSes are not (but most of you seem to say that we are just fine).. Both clerics and SSes have the issue of survivability ( even with effin 68 PR and 16k HP you can't do sht against stealthed cruses who IS you from nowhere v.v while most other classes can survive a slash and run or do sth about it.. )
What I don't understand is how people include SSes in the "OP melee classes" while claiming that the mages are underdogs o.o If this additional SPR as you guys claim is for survivability and not to bolt more then it's wrong to say that no other class needs it more than clerics..
Again. I am really not so fond of clerics claiming that this game isn't for them. This is actually like those Feminists who think they fight for EQUALITY of man and woman while only focusing on the issues of women o.o
I wouldn't be really so against the ideas of class improvement if someone wants to see it in a view where everyone benefits since we wanna call it "BALANCE"..
MY class is not an OP class.. we're actually even close to useless since the 115 web seals and 125 SM skills are out. Noone needs us to do bosses that needs sealing, all the more noone needs us to save and revive (which we obviously can't do) their asses since we die first most times...
I'd be actually happy to be so much wanted (as a cleric).. But erm, they prefer I bring in my SM over my SS ?m021
Hope you guys finally see what you are actually worth o.o
Good luck with this petition~
PlaterLumitar 5-27-2012 12:42 AM
[quote]Original posted by [i]DigitalMike[/i] at 26-5-2012 17:55 [url=http://forum.top.igg.com/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=2071970&ptid=168288][img]http://forum.top.igg.com/images/common/back.gif[/img][/url]
Perhaps a shock, but magic classes will be the main classes of the future. At some point all the new updates will have increased PR and defence of players and monsters to such a hight that melee dam ... [/quote]
lol u wish lmfao
cang559 6-3-2012 04:14 PM
Oh I saw a 8k bolt Cler , 11k while poss. Ye souls in gloves would op her but I still support this
cleric1234 6-3-2012 07:47 PM
How hell the Cle got 3k bolt only by possin ? Even if her pet is lv 60 I think its impossible o.o. In Azure, the best bolt I ever saw is 8k and something, its with poss and intense.