Jashwin 5-23-2012 03:07 PM
@Blazing : Well 44 Spr does make a difference
qooje2 5-23-2012 04:10 PM
I won't vote cuz gem of soul still...uhm...i mean you had to make it Az light not gem of soul.
Az light is better and for IGG it's more profitable than Gem of soul.
But Gem of soul still better than nothing, so i vote for yes.
At least if IGG approved this idea, it will be the starting of the balancing that we all seeked for for many years.
strong422 5-23-2012 09:53 PM
Really?Why are you guys complaining about making spirit gems for gloves, you already got insane bolts and now you want more. High powered mages already can hit 10k bolt,conch. Really stop thinking you need it all, let igg fix the stuff that has been a problem for a long time. Stop adding their list or the game won't be good. I wold agree for more hp gems but spirit gems.......
cang559 5-23-2012 10:27 PM
well ofc you want hp gems because you are a cruz. i dont know any one with a 10k bolt in my server and the best voy doesnt have 10k conch. sides magic classes cant use as many gems as other classes so its not fair
Wetew 5-23-2012 10:31 PM
As I said in the other thread, I think all classes should have right to 2 forging spots of UGs, Chippeds, Greats and Crackeds just like Crusaders can forge on both swords.
And to the guy 2 posts above, [color=Red][size=4]I WANT TO SEE THAT VOYAGER AND MAGE BOLTING 10K ON A CHARACTER OF THEIR LEVEL[/size][/color]
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strong422 5-24-2012 02:41 AM
If you think all classes should be able to forge UGs and chipped, greats, AGs then why shouldn't crusaders champs be able to gem them? Why only clerics, I'm pretty sure people can conch,bolt 7k+ if you add UGs that makes it better for them. Really....... Ofcourse they want spirit but why not hp gems or con? That helps but they just to be able to do more damage it's not balanced if they get to put UGs.
Iyashii 5-24-2012 03:59 AM
[font=Maiandra GD][size=2][b]@strong422[/b] Because the idea is to balance magic classes and hp gems would be beneficial for EVERYONE, so that's not the point at all.
And I'm sorry, but what are you even talking about with that 1st sentence? Please go re-read Wetew's post again and if you still don't get it, he's talking about DAMAGE gems. Because the idea is to BALANCE classes, not to give everyone more hp. That wouldn't balance anything... and what are you talking about "only clerics"? SMs and voys, too, obviously... But you know what, if you're one of those people that feels oh-so frightened by magic classes taking over, just because you're probably a crus or a champ that's used to 1 hitting everything in sight while watching magic classes needing several hits to do so and the idea of them getting REMOTELY close to what YOU'RE capable of frightens you... then conversation over for me, the votes speak for themselves.
P.S. Even with souls in gloves, magic classes still won't be PK monsters, so your throne is safe.[/size][/font]
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blazingfire11 5-24-2012 04:13 AM
@strong - Crus and Champs can use dual swords unlike other class so they can already gem 2 sets. And you have gems that adds hp for gloves/boots/caps and then there is the armour ofc and lastly there is also the shield. And the other glove gems for class like ss/crus/champs is quite good cuz many people like using more hr.
jdmm2 5-24-2012 05:01 AM
really I agree with this... rolf, funny read how other class, complain about if add more spr, ours bolts will be more stronger.... so what?¿ You think we care about bolts?
Lol really spr gems give us SP...
you know what is SP for a cleric? is their LIFE. Sm can tank with their lot of Defensa and Hp, Voyager too have good Hp. in my server i know x2 Voyager with 30+Hp.
but Cleric need More spr for SP. Not gems of Sp. well maybe too gems of SP. A crus slash us, and quit us around 70% of SP... so how we can then surviver? the spr are important for SP, Not for bolt, really clerics with 5-6k bolt can pwn lot of Crus Paper with shield...
MegaVoyager 5-24-2012 05:55 AM
I fully agree with this post! It'd be beneficial for all of us magic users! :)
xtreme22 5-24-2012 06:49 AM
[font=Tahoma][size=2]o_o Have you seen how much power a maller cleric can get without an Az Light in Armor? Adding SPR gems on gloves will just make those people real "killers"...
I don't want to see more overpowered classes v.v ~367
YES, I know only mallers can do that, but still o_o If I'll have to say yes here, then I'd want to have SSes gem strikes on the gun too xP
CiggyTOP2 5-24-2012 06:50 AM
Well for that there're already those Lumber Rocks.
Of course it would be better, but I accept it as it's at the moment ;-)
Iyashii 5-24-2012 09:11 AM
[font=Maiandra GD][size=2][b]@Riss[/b] If you're concerned about mallers getting too OP, you could just vote for the cracked + chipped option ~ it limits the maximum to 21 spr bonus [color=#888888](or slightly more if you have upgraded apparel ofc)[/color] and just makes thing easier for not-so-rich magic classes :P. And tbh either way, I don't think like 35-40 spr more would make THAT much of a diff. Our bolts suck ass in CA anyway and I don't think it'd be too OP outside CA either, since it's just souls and not lights.[/size][/font]
xtreme22 5-24-2012 09:28 AM
[font=Tahoma][size=2][b]Iyashii[/b] Well, lumber rocks are there, even tho they are mall gems, can still be bought at the right price o.o I've met alot of really good magicals without the proposed gems in gloves, a class' ability to be godly is just a matter of how much he/she can invest on his/her character.. be it time or real money.
And about CA, I think it's not a maze made for SMs/Clerics anyway.. Every class has its own purpose.. There are ToP bosses that can only be really damaged by magicals.. There are things other classes can't easily do without magicals.. I'm ok with how the game is atm.. and 40 SPR is a lot o_o, ut if it's not, then I'd also want 40 more ACC heehee, would love to have more max if I can't fully survive from champs and cruses with 7k maxes base lols o.o
Iyashii 5-24-2012 11:57 AM
[font=Maiandra GD][size=2]They're extremely rare and expensive if you're not a maller, though. Ridiculous for only 2 more spr. And it's not about magic classes being unable to succeed without these gems, again, if I thought we needed more help I would've suggested more... but this isn't much at all.
What maze IS made for clerics and SMs then >_>? And don't say Shaitan Mirage, because you know that's not what I meant lol, Shai Mirage is useless these days... and okay, some bosses, sure ~ that's true, but what's your point with that? That we're not useless? Ofc we're not, but we are underpowered. And hell, if that's your reasoning, then why not give crusaders and champs 40 more str? Let's give EVERYONE more damage power, since it's "not much". Sorry if that seems offensive lol, but really, SS don't need any more attack power... SMs and voys do, though, especially voys. Sure, clerics don't... but since there's no way to prevent them from also using the gems and it's not gonna be super imbalanced [color=#888888](seriously, could 40 more spr make clerics rule ToP? I don't think so..)[/color], I think it's okay.
This isn't about melee classes, SS and crusaders are fine as they are [color=#888888](regarding attack power, anyway)[/color]. It's about balance.[/size][/font]
cleric1234 5-24-2012 12:30 PM
xtreme, in all topics talking about better things to do for mages i see you complaining we dont need it a.a, its easy to you say since your main is SS. But seriously, mages need an improvement in their gloves. And can be able to forge Crack or Chipp or Soul on that is awesome. We would get more balanced and start can killing mobs/bosses by our own.
blazingfire11 5-24-2012 12:46 PM
Well theres the demonic dimensions. The bosses are there really hard maybe even impossible to do without having magic class to damage it and rev and heal and buff people
elkaezon 5-24-2012 01:00 PM
Leet put strikes in gun too hahaha
any way great idea, but magic classes can add az light in armor :s
Majumita 5-24-2012 02:18 PM
I vote each class should have 2 slots to put their offensive ugems there ;) but I onestly dont care whether that 2nd offensive gem goes to boots or gloves or weapon or cap or whatever ;)
When Clerics and Voys get more spr the SS will be the new underpowered voy class which gets 1hit by everyone :( (I dun wanna be 1hit by mages as well T_T being 1hit by champs and cruses already is enough :( )this Spr boost should come in connection with a boost for SS hp and def from con >.<
and ty for calling the gem "Gem of soul" all the time to make sure there's no misunderstanding again ;)
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xdxeeede 5-24-2012 02:33 PM
True, magical classes can add azrael lights in armor, like that wouldn't be enough. I know clerics that are actually bolting tons off damage, and as a SS i can tell yah i don't want them to bolt 1k more...